CASTE AND DIVION OF WORK.. A FALLACY TODAY

CASTE AND DIVION OF WORK.. A FALLACY TODAY
Dr K Prabhakar Rao

Some people are of opinion that caste ism in Hinduism is good for the stability of the community. The four varnas were no doubt were created by Lord Krishna as stated in Gita and also it is very clearly given in Purusha sooktham. Each varna was given certain type of work in the society. Over the years, this turned into hereditary practice and is attributed to birth. The real meaning of Brahman is something different from what we understand today. Now it is attributed to birth. He is now a Janmatah Brahaman.Other one is the brahamn by virtue of his deeds. In fact in present world, all most all are janmatah Brahamans and there is none by actions. secondly, people belonging to various cases are not pursuing their hereditary professions as per varna divisions. In temples, we do find Brahman pujaris and also from other castes if they study vedas.A veda school also exists for non Brahmins that was not sanctioned in scriptures. Shoodras were prohibited from doing tapasya during the period of Ramyana. Sri Ram to uphold the Dharma ( then) beheaded Shabooka who was doing tapasya that resulted in untimely death of a brahmin boy.The dead boy became alive once Shanbooka was beheaded. However these things happened long long ago as per mythology and we can not hide behind them in modern age. Vedas existed then too. Soldiers today are from all castes.Brahmins like Drona charya and Kripa charya and Ashwatthama fought in Mahabharatha war. Every one is engaged in trade apart from Vaishyas.Brahmins by virtue of reservations and many have been reduced to almost beggary and many are doing menial jobs too. Shoodras are no more doing services and menial jobs. Shoodras are in IAS, IPS, IFS, Army, teaching profession, ruling the nation and everywhere. Many Brahamns are engaged in various other trades. People are no more pursuing trades allotted as per varna dharma. Thus the argument of people who claim that caste system is really helping in division of work in Hinduism stands defeated. It is a fallacy indeed.Although men like Ambe kar hated caste system snd struggle against it, he however could not remove it. Today caste system is being staunchly maintained to gain reservations in various sectors. It is a vested interest.In AP very soon some medical colleges are going to be opened only for SC and ST categories where 65 % seats will be reserved for them.Then why Brahmin Medical colleges can not be opened. Similarly why Vaishya medical colleges can not be opened ? A day will come when India has to be divided based on castes such Brahmanasthan, Kshatriasthan, Vaishyanadu and then Shoodra nadu. Shoodras will again fight to get separated as Daitasthan and Shoodranadu. Where is the end to this chaos? If an Afghan wants to become an Hindu, let him become. Which Varna will accept him into their group? He can not be Jatyabrahmin. He has to be a Brahmin by virtue of his deeds.The person can not leave eating beef etc. Will Brahmins accept him and give their daughter to him if required. If a Muslim can be accepted intoa brahmin commuinity after conversion, why other Hindu varnas can not accepted into Higher Varnas? Is it acceptable. Such difficult situations have to be answered.

---------------- Note: Content of this blog post is writer's personal opinion and may not be SanghParivar.org or Sangh's view.

Comments

saugato Banerjee's picture

understand that caste is not for work but according to ones duty

if duty change, his/her caste also is changed! but our politicians and evil minded people do not want to make it happen as they will loose their vote bank or influence in the community! Varna system has never told that one brahmin can not be a Vaisya or vice versa!

conversion process to hinduism must be implemented as it is the need of time but one can not convert to hinduism with his/her own taste of food or own ideology as he/she will have to accept the food what hindus take and he/she has not to take whast hindus do not take! if one becomes hindu , he has to follow , hinduism ideology, not of their earlier religion, and thats preciously because as he/she is coming to the fold of hinduism!

only one thing is lacking in us that we r not understanding the varna system and misusing it! if we misuse a cutter, it becomes knife!

what i want to tell all that casteism is now being misused in hinduism for the purpose of politics, conversion etc but people shud know that other religions r not holy cow, they r also practicing casteism very vibrantly! so, those who want to come out from hinduism casteism fold, actually they r victimising themselves more! better, be urself with ur own belief and make competent urself rather begging in name of casteism to get reservation, freebies and make urself a misusuable item!

Dr K Prabhakar Rao's picture

NO SOLUTION AT PRESENT

What you said is partly OK as for as the need for conversions is concerned.Work and duty are compliment to each other. A shoodra is believed to have emanated from the feet of the lord as per Purusha sooktam and this Varna is engaged in services as this duty belongs to him. Kshatrya has the duty of protecting the country. So he takes up arms and joins army and rules the land. Thus duty leads to work. Both can not be different. But today duties are no way connected to work. But you have not clarified your methodolgy of admitting an outsider into one of the Varnas. This can not be answered with present state of affairs as none can give a solution. One should not depend on caste reservations and prove oneself on competence. That is fine. In person I do not have any reservations myself as I belong to Varna 1. So I personally do not have any vested interest in reservations . Regarding other religions in India some type of discrimination is there depending up on their previous varna from which they converted. It also depends on the tribe, sect within themselves. But when they get rich the classification disappears. But in Hindu society the varna system is remaining by birth.So it will be there.You have no way except group the convertees into another lower order group within fourth Varna.

saugato Banerjee's picture

Duty and work

Yes, duty must be related to work but work must not be related to duty! one works for livinghood , may not be thinking, it is his/her duty! but in duty, one has to do that job so as to balance the need of human being and nature.
In the rule of conversion, one outsiders existing work or duty will be seen and will be offered to embrace the specific varna as per hindu ideology, if one disagrees, they r not required to convert to hinduism! other religions are also converting to their lower/ upper caste category according to ones present duty/ work. i am sure, if our varna system is followed again strongly, hindu will rule the world again!
In hinduism also, nobody ask ones caste/ varna when he/she is rich. In other two religion, not only lower or upper, they r also practicing varna, anybody can not be moulana or Father! Hinduism , in fact , is liberal in all those thing! i will give detail of that later!

Dr K Prabhakar Rao's picture

FUTILE HOPES

You are hoping to follow Varna system correctly again as done earlie
and that it would result in India ruling the world.Assuming that Varna system was followed earlier some centuries ago, India did not rule the world and inturn Others ( Tom Dick and Harry) invaded India massacring scores of Indians.If we think that it was followed in yore, there is no evidence of India ruling the world.Even during the time of Ramayana and Mahabharatha there is no mention of them ruling the universe.They were limited to Indian subcontinent. Our ancient scriptures are not clear and specific on this.Probably they were even ignorant of other continents. Foreign travellers came to India by the most difficult silk route and by sea. But Indian travellers did not go to far off lands like Europe, Egypt. There is no evidence.India remained isolated for centuries and Indians flourished in subcontinent and few near by Islands. They went up to Indonesia and Burma. Romans conquered England and many countries and there is historical evidence. Indians could only attack Indonesian islands and established few kingdoms. They did not go beyond that.In fact those who crossed seas were out caste in olden days. Even MK Gandhi faced the wrath. It will be impossible to revert back to earliest form of Varna system. The present situation is a quagmire.One can not prove that adhering to caste and ' Varna system truly will result in India ruling the world.

saugato Banerjee's picture

Hindu ruled the world for over 5000 years

yes, temporarily, we r displaced from ruling as we r not going in way of Hindutva or coming out from varna system which was our core strength! Chandragupt Maurya had made Akhanda Bharat, comprising present Afganistan, pakistan,nepal, Bangladesh, present india etc and his successor vikramaditya ruled half of the world! Ashoka also ruled half of the world, i will come back in this issue with full detail, how long and how much area Hindu ruled the world!

Hindu does not fight with each other in name of Religion even though there r several Gods/Goddess due to common phylosophy which make us unique and strong from other two rebel religions who r continuously trying to break us! we r only lacking of Common congestion prayer system and conversion system! and we shud not come out from our core strength 'varna system' which is our identity! if we come out, we will face identity crisis! there must be research on that, how to make varna system stronger and stick to our original system! if varna system is more propminently , there will be no scarcity guarding our religion & country with protecting(Khastriya), nourishing(Brahmin),flourishing(vaisya)and bringing up(sudra)! we will have to understand our strength and not to allow others to break our core strength!

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WISHFUL THINKING

Probably you are trying to give out that King Vikramaditya of Gupta empire conquered Arabia and the black stone in Kaaba is nothing but the ancient shiva lingam. There are also certain inscriptions on a brass vessel in Kaba that indicate Hindu presence there. It is also cited in an ancient book kept in a Turkish library that gives some details about the gratitude of native Arabs to the Hindu king who is praised as a good king and thank him for sending scholors. If these are true after Prophet Mohammed's ( PBUH) emergence, the idols were removed and it no more remained an Hindu temple. Islamic scriptures state very clearly that there were some idols of Pagans that were removed from today's Kaba.If these are true , then suddenly what went wrong? Varna system was practiced very well even after Gupta reign. In ancient days Afghanistan was called Gandhara and it was part of Indian sub continent. Buddhism prevailed for long till Islam occupied the places.You are at liberty to state that unless Hindus follow strictly the Varna code Hindus will not be able to rule world.Today's Dalits would soon rise up in arms at this theory. This argumnet however is far from remote and would remain a wishful thinking.Caste problem would continue to plague us inspite of all these claims. Better luck.

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DAY DREAMING

Please also remember that when you want to convert from other religions they naturally would like to get into those castes that are given maximum reservations. In India these reservations would stay eternally as it has political fall out. It will not go. It may go with demise of this country.Hinduism might rise again from the ashes.Let us hope so.On one side we are eager to get conversions from other religions that will be resisted by others too as we do.Most of the Indian Muslims are convertees from the last few centuries who were forcibly converted or lured into the religion with offering of perks. Will Hindus do that? I am sure no.In Islam Muslims are fighting each other based on Sunni or Shia sects. They are killing each other. We are atleast not doing that. But look at Tamilnadu blogs on the subject. You shall find atrocious hatred against Brahmins by the DMK followers. Most of the Brhmins are out from TN and do not get jobs in govt.Ayyars and Ayyangars have been driven out from TN. There was a time when most of the IAS men were from this community and it is a past story now. TN crossed the stipulated reservation limit.
Follwing strict Varna system proprosed by you is not possible in the modern world and thus dreams of ruling over the world remains only a day dream.I still wish you great success on this front if you can .

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CLASS AND CASTE

Please also know that Hindu scripture stipulate four Varnas while Holy Qoran the only authority for Islam does not categorize people. Over the years with mingling with other religions like Hinduism in Asia, no doubt a class structure has developed in Islam too in Asia. But it is not varna system as we have. Sunni and shia, sects developed after Prophet Mohammed ( PBUH) passed away over the succession issue to the Prophet( PBUH).Ahmedia, Bora and Sufi etc developed after some time. But for all of then Holy Qoran is the scripture.Thus Islam fundamentally does not attribute to varna system like ours while for Hinduism caste system is an ingredient part of it although in our secular nation caste system continues although is hated by intellectuals. Outwardly some hate, but inwardly they follow.We have double standards. It is an entirely a separate issue that Islam has class structure peculiar to Asian Muslims. But Basic Islam remains free of caste.So is the case with Christianity.

saugato Banerjee's picture

other two rivals r becoming stronger by adopting our skeleton!

basic hinduism is nothing to do with caste, class or varna system, its an eternal belief, worshipping nature and its creation and in that way, many different culture developed!
when society has been civilized, the requirement of dividing duties was felt and Rishi Manu created this varna system what has strengthened and disciplined the society! but also created some differences over a period of time but it was for good as if varna system wud not have been adopted , society cud not run and indisciplined wud have been prevailed! that time, there was no other religion, after which when islam, christianity founded, to compete with hinduism , they took many opposite option for which u cant see those so called hinduism evil directly in these two religions but they r surviving actually on the soulder of hinduism as the whole ancient world ran on the concept of hinduism and ultimately, no country or society is out of casteism or varna system, if u really investigate the truth! but it is easy to put all blame on hinduism as it was the first dharma of all mankind(it continued to be still) but the fact is, even if islam or christianity wud come earlier than hinduism, they wud also do the same or develop same system as hinduism as civilized society demanded that!
here we win, that inspite of several Gods , section, hindus does not fight with each other, its hinduism phylosophy, whatever hinduism has developed, thats scientic and nothing/ no religion is more scientific than hinduism! sati daha or bal vibaha starterd due to mughal invasion, its not for hinduism concept but it had come to practice! but hindu knew reformation and if some logical reason put before , unlike other two, hindu easily adopt that!
our politicians r only taking and blaming varna system for upholding their vote bank! if it is practiced like earlier,. our society wud not have seen the indiscipline what we r observing now! our country wud have been morally , ethically , mentally and physically wud have been stronger! its deteriorating only because we r coming out varna system, we r breaking our skeleton while other two r becoming stronger by adopting our skeleton!