Get Updates
User login
Navigation
Poll
Invite a friend
Recent Blogs
- SYSTEMATIC EFFORTS ARE ON WAY TO DISTORT HISTORY BY MODERN REAL JAICHANDS
- PREGNANT DUCK
- there shud be law, when one converted to other religion- no more previous surname !
- ISLAMIZATION WILL BE STOPPED
- INTO THE PAST WITH PAIN...267
- THICK HIDES
- Abhishek Manu Singhvi Sex CD Scandal - there is no news in media but why opposition(mainly BJP) is silent !?
- BLAME GAME.. IT IS A PAST TIME
- BLUNTED EDGE
- DARK DAYS AHEAD
The Hypocrisy and Myth of Christian Humanitarianism
The Hypocrisy and Myth of Christian Humanitarianism
Christians claim they provide humanitarian aid to millions of poor Indians and they convert to Christianity to show their appreciation for this humanitarian aspect of Christianity. Nothing could be further from truth and this is another historic lie for which Christian Missionaries are quiet famous. Because
- Most of the conversions in
- Christian Organizations do not do self less service. They want to convert Hindus so that they can change the demographic nature of
- Christian Educational Institutes and Hospitals claim all over the world that they are helping improve the education and health of developing countries. But we all know that Hindus studying in these schools or getting treated in such hospitals are forced to pay higher fees. And the part of that fee is diverted in providing education and health benefits to Christian converts. So in a way they are making Hindus fund for the conversion of Hindus.
- In the colonial times Christian missionaries would be sent to new lands to collect intelligence information before the actual attack was conducted. Christian missionaries would act as spies and propaganda arm of colonial powers. Once the land was subjugated the same missionaries would then order the torture and murder of those who do not convert to Christianity (this was called inquisitions and there are numerous horrible instance of that in Goa and Latin America) It Christian Missionaries also sent plague infested blankets to poor American Indians in order to reduce their numbers and strength to a level where resistance to Christianity was impossible.
- Forums:
I was born and raised a
I was born and raised a Christian in the US and I can tell you it's all a scam.
Regardless of what the historical Jesus may have said the reality of history is that the Christian Churches have been ignorant, murderous oppressors every chance they got. From the Catholics exterminating the Cathars for pointing out Jesus was poor and didn't wear silk & gold like the priests did to Hitler who trained to be a Catholic Priest and Stalin who trained to be an Orthodox Priest. The Pope now, was also a NAZI and spends the money they 'collect for the poor' on designer leather shoes and defending priests caught forcing homosexual rape on young boys.
Their list of crimes is endless.
Now, they're trying to reinvent history and claim that Galileo Galilei supported the Church when in fact the Church excommunicated him and insisted he was burning in Hell for 400 years because he claimed the Earth goes around the Sun when the Bible was interpeted to say the reverse. The Catholic Church didn't admit Galileo Galilei was right until the 1980s!!!!
Stay as far away from Christians as you can.
jesus loves you even if the
jesus loves you even if the vatican,or the catholic doesn't love you
Well well, look who's
Well well, look who's talking.
One religious extremist talking about another.
How ironic!
Millions of fake Indian
Millions of fake Indian currency in Circulation: Will cause big blow to Indian Economy:
In fact according to estimates one fourth of Indian currency is fake and it is impossible to detect it because they are using the same serial numbers and print as in original. Who is printing it, do you think this would have happened without the support of government at the top. I think Sonia is involved in it. Remember she was involved in fake stampaper scam in Maharashtra. The fake money is being pumped throgh missionaries to converst lower strata of the country. Sonia and Christians are using the national institutions to sabotage the country. They are working like termites. On the top you feeel everything is OK but inside they are turning everything to dust.
Christian controlled our media and spewing anti-hindu propaganda. Look at how this media is supporting terrorists and seperatists.
Hindus and Hinduism is inherantly tolerant. look at the history we provided refuge to Parsis, jews, Christians who were getting persecuted by muslims in Middle east in medivial times. They lived in Indi for thousands of years in peace and dignity which was denied to them in middle east.
But now these middle eastern religions are growing in India and are showing their bigoted thinking.
Read
www.evilbible.com/
www.faithfreedom.org/
I am an Indian Christian and
I am an Indian Christian and I want to make a balanced view of all this.
First of all, hindus should realize that lower sections of their society have been ignored for a long time. They need help, and missionaries are giving that help. I am not saying hindu organizations are not, but so are missionaries.
At the same time, as a christian, I find it untolerable that many missionary groups are using fraudulent means (coersion, exploiting the person's economic weakness, etc.) to get new converts. I think that is against the message of Jesus.
So both sides need to learn from this episode. Hindus - you need to start paying more attention to your own downtrodden. Christians need to stop conversions which result from fraudulent means.
Lastly, we are all Indians. So let us stop this fighting.
I give you a real life eg
I give you a real life eg happening in very civilized society of bangalore no tribal areas.. If you need proof just gimme ur id i will give u the address and no of the person concerned.. This happened in our very neighbourhood in bangalore.. We had newly shifted to our apartments and we had this christian family in our apartments.. Well to do and nice.. They are daughter son-in law and mother family. Now the Mother of the family was very friendly to all of us and would always ask us to send our servants to her place too.. We were surprised why does she need new servants almost every second week.. Finally we got this from our own maid who told how she used to lure all of them talking to them about church and how they will benefit after becoming christian... 9 out of 10 maids did slam her for that and one conceded.. Now as if that was not enough she came to our home and tried explaining my mother how hinduism depicts fake gods and fake beliefs.. SHe was shown the door but i wished we could have done more to her than that as she still continues her venture.. DO you call this appeasing and 2 Kg rice with oil conversion rate freedom of religion.. How do u think we hindus shud react to this.. When Xtian cross the line they are not noticed and when hindus cross they are lambasted.. If they need to help humanity then why they need to convert first..Such hypocrites.
You say Christianity makes
You say Christianity makes sense to you.
Do you mind sharing what sense it makes to you? Why do you believe that God was born as his own son 2000 years ago to a virgin, apparently "died" for your sins and then flew to heaven after 3 days, and that you need to spread this "good news" and get as many people as possible to believe in this, because this son of God (who is his own father) asked you to?
Did he really "die", if he, as God, already knew that he would be resurrected? It was more of a drama in which he was himself the director and lead actor. What kind of divinity or spirituality do you see in this?
Will you be so kind as to give a clear logical answer without bringing in irrelevancies about Hinduism? Let us assume that Hinduism is a sick, evil, Satanic, disgusting religion.
You say Christianity makes
You say Christianity makes sense to you.
Do you mind sharing what sense it makes to you? Why do you believe that God was born as his own son 2000 years ago to a virgin, apparently "died" for your sins and then flew to heaven after 3 days, and that you need to spread this "good news" and get as many people as possible to believe in this, because this son of God (who is his own father) asked you to?
Did he really "die", if he, as God, already knew that he would be resurrected? It was more of a drama in which he was himself the director and lead actor. What kind of divinity or spirituality do you see in this?
Will you be so kind as to give a clear logical answer without bringing in irrelevancies about Hinduism? Let us assume that Hinduism is a sick, evil, Satanic, disgusting religion.
Since Sonia is at the top,
Since Sonia is at the top, Christian conversions in India seem to have gone in overdrive. More than 4,000 foreign Christian missionaries are involved in conversion activities across different states. In Tripura, there were no Christians at independence, there are 120.000 today, a 90% increase since 1991. The figures are even more striking in Arunachal Pradesh, where there were only 1710 Christians in 1961, but 1,2 million today, as well as 780 churches! In Andhra Pradesh, churches are coming-up every day in far flung villages and there was even an attempt to set-up one near Tirupati. Many of the North-East separatist movements, such as the Mizo or the Bodos, are not only Christian dominated, but also sometimes function with the covert backing of the missionaries. In Kerala, particularly in the poor coastal districts, you find “miracle boxes” put in local churches: the gullible villager writes out a paper mentionning his wish: a fising boat, a loan for a pukka house, fees for the son’s schooling… And lo, a few weeks later, the miracle happens ! And of course the whole family converts, making others in the village follow suit. During the Tsunami, entire dalit villages in Tamil Nadu were converted to Christianity with the lure of money.
@indian and proud of it..U
@indian and proud of it..U said that karma is a failing of hinduism..Wel,wat did jesus mean by,"as u sow so shall u reap"?? Unless the world is gone mad,its a elabrate meaning of karma.Satan admits 2 the word of God but he puts his own interpretation 2 it!It is the "god of this evil age" who has blinded the eyes of the people that they could believe a lie and be damned with it.There are many so-called christians,pastors even who act pious but are fooling majority christians in india,many in the west are wise 2 these agents of satan,its indians new 2 christianity and emotional sermons with their "miracles" that need 2 beware.
Dear Indian.. I trust you
Dear Indian.. I trust you and love you for what you have said. I apologize for anything I said to offend you. Still I would like to clarify a few more things
You say “Karma is where Hinduism is failing in Orissa and other places today in their aggression against Christians. Going by the actions of Hindus, I find there is no difference between militant islamists and Hindus extremists. “
I agree with you that the violence from Hindus is bad as it is against the concept of Karma. What we Hindus feel is that killing of Swami Lakshmanananda was a conspiracy of Christians. Please understand that may be Christians are not involved, It is the history of Christians (Karma) which supports this suspicion. In any case I am personally against attack on any innocent person and believe this is a very stupid and emotional reaction. I hope Hindus stop reacting like this.
You say “You and others hate us so much. I am not sure if you personally had any bad experiences with Christians or whether you were told to do so.”
I don’t hate Christians and I also have Christian friends who I love and will never wish anything bad happening to them. I am only worried about Christianity because Christianity has a bad history of oppressing non-Christians. Christians in America (north and South) have proven themselves to be bigots and have oppressed non-Christians. Even today the Christians in Korea are discriminating non Christians. My concern is why should our country get into bigotry of any kind.
You say “A Christian is a person who follows christ not a religious person who does all the rituals that church teaches them to do. My Hindu friends dont know this aspect of Christianity. “
I appreciate what you say. Personally I also believe that Christ was incarnation of God, just like Rama or Krishna. I find no fault in Christs teachings. For example I am so impressed by the incidence where Christ saves a prostitute by asking people who were about to stone her that the person who has committed no sin to cast the first stone. I think this was really divine. But I understand the deeper meaning of this. Even though the law of old testament was that prostitutes should be stoned to death, Christ showed to us that humanity is bigger than anything else. My problem with Christianity is the old testament and its hatefull and evil teachings which even Christ tried to oppse. Why are oyu Christians not abe to see it.
You say ”Let me say this in closing. It is only Christianity that gives people choice of faith. Isnt that the reason that in any of the Western nations you have the freedom to believe what you want?. In fact many of these countries are supportive of any other religions. I still remember about a year ago, the launching of the Hindu temple in Toronto Canada was a nationally televised event with the Prime Minister attending personally. “
Hinduism also gives you a freedom of faith and even says that God can be worshipped in any form and what is important is the intension of worship and not the way we worship. Yes I agree that most of the Christian countries have now realized the true message of Christ and that is the reason that they are so tolerant. But at the same time you also need to realize that the same countries have also realized the bigotry of the church and clergy, the way we Hindus have realized the bigotry of Brahmins.
You say “Hinduism in my understanding was never like that. But Hindu fundamentalists are making it a religion like Islam where they are creating paranoia and fear that all Hindus will become Christians or Muslims - for which they are willing to kill.”
Well please understand that Hindus including me have a reason to be paranoid about Islam and Christianity, because we have valid reasons to believe that these organizations have an agenda to subjugate us. When we see what Islam and Christianity has done in other civilizations why should we not get paranoid. How do we know Christians are not going to do to us what they did to American Indians.
You say “Freedom and Choice are fundamental Christian values. The values that has made the West progress so much at the same time abused to degrade itself into immorality of every kind. So in a balance freedom is good.”
I think freedom and Choice are a hallmark of modern western values and not of Christinity. Because these values were denied to Europeans for 1500 when Christianity ruled Europe and dragged it to dark ages. That is the reason most of the people in west see Christianity with suspicion and want to keep it away from the governance.
Ypou say “Christ can bring transformation to the world because he focuses on the human heart, a change in the heart, a change in the attitudes of people. An inward transformation. Unfortunately even among Christians this is misunderstood because everyone wants a form of religion and not the real thing. “
I couldn’t agree more. But then again I want to emphasize that Christianity does not represent the true values of Christ always.
You say “And so, let me add that I am human first, Indian next and Christian after that. Christ has given me so much meaning in life where no one or nothing could ever fill the void in my life as I was growing up as a troubled teenager. And I am Indian and proud to be Indian, I have given my children Indian (and sanskrit names) they are Indian. I am an Indian transformed by the power of Christ and I try to live like Christ in my Indian culture embracing Indian traditions and values of respecting the elders, honoring the family and entreating the stranger.”
I admire you and believe you are a true follower of Christ, please help us in our fight against people who spread bigotry in the name of Christ and want to make India a land of Bigotry and religious hate.
You said “PS: Calvinism is the Christian belief that God predestines us to eternity even before we are born. It is very much part of the Christian faith and belief system and not a sect or denomination itself.”
Yes from that perspective both Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King were Christians but please understand these great people were against Christian bigotry and not against Christ. Christian Evangelists in India are not spreading the word of Christ but the bigotry of their church. This bigotry is destroying the Hindu-Christian relationship and peace. Islamic bigots are also tking advantage of this.
Christianity teaches peace
Christianity teaches peace and humanity. Please tell this to the terrorists in North-eastern states.
National Liberation Front of Tripura:
The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) is a rebel group operating in Tripura, North-East India. The NLFT were declared a terrorist organization under the Indian Prevention of Terrorism Act in 2002. The NLFT manifesto says that they want to expand what they describe as the kingdom of God and Christ in Tripura. They are accused of forcing indigenous tribes to give up Hinduism and become Christian in areas under their control. In 2000 the Indian government of Tripura announced that it had hard evidence that the Baptist Church of Tripura was backing the NLFT. Nagmanlal Halam, secretary of the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura, was arrested and found to be in possession of a large quantity of explosives. Halam confessed to buying and supplying explosives to the NLFT for the past two years. The National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism classified the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world in 2003.
The NLFT, like the ATTF, focuses its activities in the Indian state of Tripura. However, the impetus driving the NLFT’s armed struggle is the creation of an independent state in Tripura that is governed by Christian principles. With many of the group’s members motivated by Christianity, the NLFT manifesto seeks to end "Indian colonialism" and "neo-imperialism." The organization, operating from Bangladesh, uses its numerous bases to execute subversive terrorist activities in India... Typical NLFT targets include Indian government employees and officials, as well as civilians. Members of the rival Communist Party of India and their family members are also victims of NLFT attacks. Bombings and kidnappings are the tactical measures used most often by the NFLT... the group ranks as one of the most active terrorist groups in terms of both incidents and fatalities... the organization reportedly receives financial assistance from Christian supporters in India, enabling the organization to implement its operations... The NLFT has managed to maintain contacts with various terrorist organizations, such as the National Liberation Front of Bodoland, an organization active in Assam; the Nagaland-based National Socialist Council of Nagaland-Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM); and the Manipur-based Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup (KYKL). The NLFT has, likewise, cultivated transborder linkages in Myanmar and Bhutan, which are also rather accessible, and has formed strategic networks with intelligence organizations in Pakistan.
Nagaland Rebels:
The Nagaland Rebels is a coalition of rebel groups operating in Nagaland, North-East India. The largest of these is the National Socialist Council of Nagaland-Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM), which is fighting for the establishment of a "Nagaland for Christ". The NSCN-IM have carried out numerous acts of terrorism against the Indian Army, other ethnic groups, and opponents within their own ethnic group. The insurgency has been waged since the 1947 Indian declaration of independence, and has resulted in tens of thousands of deaths. Baruah writes that "Christianity is an essential part of Naga identity"; the NSCN-IM estimate that 95% of Nagas are Christian. According to Gordon Means "the religious issue cannot be overlooked... A great number of Nagas are Christians... the Naga Federal Government (NFG) could play upon the fear of many Nagas that within the Indian Union the religious freedom of a small Christian minority would be compromised. An independence movement that can cloak itself in the garb of both nationalism and religious righteousness has an initial advantage. And there can be no doubt that the rebel Nagas are a sincerely pious lot. By all accounts, hymn singing and prayers constitute an important part of their daily routine in their jungle hide-outs. The vice-president of the NFG, Mr. Mhiasiu, was a preacher before joining the underground. Serving as chaplains for the Home Guards are many Baptist ministers."
Xtianity Slayer - at least
Xtianity Slayer - at least we agree on one thing that we are Indian and then what ever we believe. I would give you a hug if I met you - even though you called me names and used all the four letter words you know. You make a classic statement that I will hold you and other well meaning Hindus accountable for. You said "Hindu God is just and rewards and punishes people based on their Karma and the punishment will not exceed the crime". Karma is where Hinduism is failing in Orissa and other places today in their aggression against Christians. Going by the actions of Hindus, I find there is no difference between militant islamists and Hindus extremists. I still believe that militant hindus are a minority in this country. Having said that I will be the first to condemn Christian militancy as well. Because my bible teaches that "the one who takes the sword will fall by the sword". It teaches that "Vengeance is of the Lord". None of the terrorists, militants, murderers, rapists and others who have oppressed other people weather they be Christian, Muslime, Hindu or any other will get due punishment either in this world or the world to come.
You and others hate us so much. I am not sure if you personally had any bad experiences with Christians or whether you were told to do so. I embraced Christianity when I was 14, it was a personal choice even though I was born in a Christian home. Till date, I havent heard a single sermon in my church asking people to convert other people. We teach that we must let others know about Christ, and salvation from Sin as we believe the sinful nature of the human heart is the cause of all evil. We believe people need a change of heart, a new birth - weather a person born into a christian home, muslim home or hindu home. And we teach that to our own people and we share that with other people as well. That to me doesn't constitute conversion. If you call that conversion, the biggest conversion happens among christians because each child born in our families is given a choice to accept or reject Christ as his way to the future. And so, there are many people in our fold who call themselves Christian but are not Christian by deed. The bible does not recognise them, nor does God. And if they take up arms, Scripture is not responsible for that. They are. They are already condemned by God for their action and rejection of the truth that was revealed to them. This core biblical principle is not known to many of my Hindu countrymen. Ask a "born again" christian he will tell you what I just told you. Such people are an asset to every nation. Because we pay taxes, we dont defraud our neighbours, or our businesses, we use the right weights and measures when we buy and sell as we have been tought by Christ - as taught in His sermon on the mount. (I know there are many morally right Hindus and Muslims as well). That is the Christianity I embrace. Please, please dont condemn christianity by the abuse of its name by people who hardly dont open thier bible or dont even know Christ. A Christian is a person who follows christ not a religious person who does all the rituals that church teaches them to do. My Hindu friends dont know this aspect of Christianity.
I cant speak for others but I can speak for myself. Till date - none of us I know have paid anyone else to become a christian. I wonder how in the world is that possible in this day and age? Can you buy loyalty, love or honesty for Money. My friend who is a thinker says that a bitter gourd whether planted in a Christian's, Muslim's or Hindu's house will still be bitter. The bitterness in the gourd can only be changed if the gourd undergoes a transformation from within. Transplanting the plant from one compound to another does not change the bitter gourd - thats is what Christ tought that everyone needs a change from within - this money cannot buy. That to me is profound.
Let me say this in closing. It is only Christianity that gives people choice of faith. I dont even force my children to become Christians - I will teach them from Scripture the best I can, I will live as an example of Christ, but it is their own choice whether to follow Christ or not. That is why Christianity does not condemn people leaving the Christian faith. Have you noticed that ever? We dont do honor killings, and reconversions as other people do. People at any time are free to walk away from the faith. Think about it. Isnt that the reason that America is no longer a Christian nation .. where people walk away from their orignial faith and no one/no church does anything about it. Isnt that the reason that in any of the Western nations you have the freedom to believe what you want?. In fact many of these countries are supportive of any other religions. I still remember about a year ago, the launching of the Hindu temple in Toronto Canada was a nationally televised event with the Prime Minister attending personally.
Christianity inherently teaches that every human being needs to be presented with Christ once in their life time and it is the hearers choice to accept or reject him. We are fine if any of you choose to reject Him. Wasnt it Christ who said that path to eternity is a narrow path where there will be only very few following him. And that is true - true christians are very few. And it is not in our agenda to grow the numbers as the fundamentalists beleive. Our strength is in the quality of followers we have for Christ and not the Quantity
At the same time, Iranian parliament as we speak is passing a legislation that makes it punishable by death if someone leaves Islam. In other words there is only one way into Islam - no way out. Why are people so paranoid about people leaving their faith or religious system? Why they have to struggle to keep people within the fold if they have something so precious to offer? Hinduism in my understanding was never like that. But Hindu fundamentalists are making it a religion like Islam where they are creating paranoia and fear that all Hindus will become Christians or Muslims - for which they are willing to kill.
Freedom and Choice are fundamental Christian values. The values that has made the West progress so much at the same time abused to degrade itself into immorality of every kind. So in a balance freedom is good.
Christianity is not as bad as you think. Christ can bring transformation to the world because he focuses on the human heart, a change in the heart, a change in the attitudes of people. An inward transformation. Unfortunately even among Christians this is misunderstood because everyone wants a form of religion and not the real thing.
And so, let me add that I am human first, Indian next and Christian after that. Christ has given me so much meaning in life where no one or nothing could ever fill the void in my life as I was growing up as a troubled teenager. And I am Indian and proud to be Indian, I have given my children Indian (and sanskrit names) they are Indian. I am an Indian transformed by the power of Christ and I try to live like Christ in my Indian culture embracing Indian traditions and values of respecting the elders, honoring the family and entreating the stranger.
My apologies - Xtianity Slayer - if I have gone overboard in my reaction to what you have written. I am really very upset by what is going on in the name of religion in India today. I am helpless because I dont decide and control what other people are doing. I can only present the truth as I know it. As I said again its upto people's Choice to accept what I have said or not. I have never been a threat to India, a hindu or our hindu society and you will find that there are thousands of Christians in India who think and live like me. I pray that sense and truth will prevail in this nation.
PS: Calvinism is the Christian belief that God predestines us to eternity even before we are born. It is very much part of the Christian faith and belief system and not a sect or denomination itself.
u are absolutely
u are absolutely right.Change hearts."cleanse the mind,this is all of religion"-Swami Vivekananda.Whichever ppl of whatever religion needs 2 buy gifts,give money etc 2 get others 2 convert are fakes and the devil in disguise.God does'nt need 2 BUY ppl 2 follow a religion.But worst of all 2 me,are the ppl who are bought by satan 2 convert.These converts are greedy bastards and want 2 use everyone 2 enrich themselves even at the expense of lives.Who can trust converts?Do they have real loyality in their hearts/souls??There will always be doubts thats why theres all these man-created religious wars.Even if all ppl in the world were 1 religion there woud still be something 2 fight abt.As 4 islam,its the most militant,just reading the quran is like reading a, how to book on war and bribery.Hindus and christians have a common enemy,islamic terrorists.How many christians have been converted or killed by islamists?Anyone have information 4 that please post it.
Indian You say “ Xtianity
Indian
You say “ Xtianity Slayer - How can you even have a name like that? People like you are against people and humanity - what you hate is not Christianity, you hate people. “
Xtianity is a disease and sooner the world gets rid of it the better. Xtianity dragged Europe to dark ages and destroyed Greek civilization. I don't want this disease in my country.
You say “You kill those you dont like. And you take pride in that. Wasn't Gandhiji killed by the RSS? “
No, I have killed no one not even pests like cockraches and ants which infest my house like Xtians infest my country.
You say “ You need to understand that the core of the Christian faith is love, compassion - none of us who are true Christians ... would support anything of the kinds you mention. You dont test Christianity based on the abuse of its name.”
Oh ..Yeah…. That is just propaganda, Xtians have proved otherwise. In fact Hinduism has a much better record in Humanity.
You say “Let me also state for the record that Abraham Lincoln who waged wars against slavery and eventually put an end to it was a Devout christian.”
Another Xtian lie. Abraham Lincoln was opposed to organized religion and was attracted to Calvinism
You say “Martin Luther King Junior who fought for Black American rights was a devout christian too. Please get your facts right and do some reading for God's sake.”
It is you Xtian fool who needs to get his facts straigt and stop lying. Martin luther King was not Xtian and in fact he hated it for its injustice. Read
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/king.htm
You say “And you have skillfully avoided my points on Hollywood, and materialism because you support that. You want American money. You want American university degrees too. You would trade your children for the Holywood filth in the name of entertainment. You are the bigot. Your hate for christians shows clearly that you dont even want to reason it out. “
Stupid Xtian. Your bigotry speaks in your words. Hinduism rejects materialism like no other religion. How can you bastard say that I would trade m children for Hollywood filth. Keep this discussion civil and stop making personal attacks especially on my family. More you act like this more I hate Xtians. Yes I want me and my family to progress but that is not materialism you fool.
You say “And you tell me there is no cateism in India? Are you blind? Try giving that sermon in rural India. High Caste Hindus wont even get medical treatment from a low caste doctor. You must be kidding to tell the world that casteism doesnt exist in India.”
Are you nuts where did I say that Castism is not a problem. I said “Castism was and is a problem still to some extent in Hindus”. Read my post again liar. I said that Hindus outlawed it before Xtians of America and South Africa outlawed segregation.
You say “Lastly, let me say this. After you and I die -we both will stand in front of a holy and righteous God. We wont have to give an account of what others have done. Or what Ghandiji did or didnt do, “
That is what Muslims also say.. Xtian and muslim fools think that God will reward them for how well they licked his ass. Both Xtians and Muslims believe Gandhi wil go to hell as he did not believe in true religion. Tell me that is wrong.
Hindu God is just and rewards and punishes people based on their Karma and the punishment will not exceed the crime. There is no eternal hell as in Islam and Xtianity as it is against the concept of justice and a loving God. A loving God will never torture a person for eternity just because he does not believe in him
You say ”That we will not act foolishly but rather with a contrite and broken heart pray for the unity of India - a nation we all share. I am proud to be an Indian first, Christian next.”
Although I am skeptical that you may not mean it, I still admire that you said this. Because I also believe I am an Indian first and Hindu next. I only wish that this great country should not become victim to Xtian bigotry. Look at Korea, they were so tolerant ot Xtians but as soon as Xtians got power they started discriminating against non Christians. While as we Hindus gave the persecuted Xtians refuge when you were getting fucked by muslims. We even trusted the Xtian bitch Sonia but she along with Xtians like you are biting us for our goodness and trust.
GOSPEL and SOCIAL
GOSPEL and SOCIAL SERVICES
ACCORDING TO BIBLE: StMatthew: 25:34-40
KANURU – 534329, WEST GODAVARI
DISTRICT, ANDRA PRADESH, SOUTH
INDIA
E-MAIL:b.babyraj@yahoo.com
Phone numbers: 00918819225799
Cell phone: 009989608711
Rev. B.J.EMMANUEL RAJU, B.Th., M.Div, DD
Preparing Soldiers for Christ
Praise God for the Wonderful testimony of my dream mission for the preparation of soldiers for Christ. I have gotten an opportunity by the Grace of God to strive to know, follow, initiate and belong to Jesus Christ in a very deep and special way made available to a lay person. It has been raised up by Holy Spirit to answer the needs of our times and to evangelize our secular society to reach out to hundreds of uncharted people and fallen away faithful and to teach faithful how to live out and deepen their lives in Christianity in the remote tribal villages. They find their strength and energy in a life of prayer centered on the faith.
Please let me introduce myself. I am Rev.Dr.B.JOHN Emmanuel Raju, D.D. I am 44 years old. I am doing the Jesus Christ Service for the past 20 years. We have visited 15 surrounding villages regularly to lead the people towards Jesus Christ by my Gospel. On this occasion, I am distributing Gospel Tracks, new Testaments and other material of biblical subject to the people of these villages. In order to achieve these objectives, I used to visit door to door and praying for their illness and help the poor widows, orphans by providing food, shelter, clothing, medicines and financial support for their essential needs like medical treatment, education etc.
On my personnel prayers, I always remember “O my Jesus, you have said, “Truly I say to you, ask and it will be given you, seek and you will find, knock and it will be opened to you” (Mt 7:7)
We are using our profession, education, talents and skills in the mission to serve the poor and needy. By the grace of god, I have been in this mission for over 21 years and I am very grateful to god for allowing me to be little part of his great work. Without rendering such a service people might otherwise be condemn to their state of poverty. The poor around us desperately need our service to educate, care for and lift them up from their state and teach them how to improve their quality of life and standard of living. We educate people how to make good use of resources and foods available them. We are also providing first aid in the field of health care. So many people are sick and fear going to hospitals for a variety of reasons. People are just suffering the disease and dying unnecessarily. People are afraid to open about their ailments, but when they know we are a missionary to release them and they easily open up bout their problems which are most of the time easily solvable. When remote tribal people go to hospital, the doctors are typically rough and uncompassionate with the patients. It seems they are only concerned about the money. Many times, if don’t pay upfront, no matter how bad of shape you are in, they won’t treat you.
I know people who have died because they didn’t have the funds to pay the Doctor for a life threatening surgery; we make an arrangement to provide a doctor who is a member of my mission. He takes his time and is patient with them. He also helped many people get through and recover from simple as well as serious illness.
Dear brothers and sisters, Praise the Lord. This is my service and Gospel , Social work to my surrounding village people.
In the Service of the poor and remote tribal area’s children, we are conducting regular weekly Sunday schools and medical camps, food, clothing, education etc. We are making them as good citizens of this country. Around 50 children are getting our services in orphanage home..
As on today, we have an enormous response from the village people who were massively converted to Christianity and they stand for Jesus Christ. They were participating our regular weekly masses with dedication and full faith. Here presently around 100 or above member in each church are running in 15 different remote villages with 24 churches. Each church is running with one poor Pastor who are also dedicatedly working beyond their capacity. Some of the churches does not have permanent buildings also. But still our pastors are actively conducting their regular weekly masses.
Church Members gathered under the Tree for conducting Weekly Sunday Mass
Now we have started an innovative programmed to service the old age people and widow in our churches and their neighboring areas. In these programs we are supplying food, cloths, and medicines regularly and also preparing them for gospel by door to door campaign for conducting prayers and lead the new souls toward Jesus. Pray for us as we are going to construct a shelter for them to improve their services and make this program success.
Please help for construction of bible collage or children home. These are the details GIVEN below Para.
We are also conducting bible classes & collages for the youth to make them confident to become a preacher. The total members of youth in my service and in ministry are 250 above for the youth to make them confident to become a preacher. Kindly pray for this effort as we are struggling hard for procuring books, bible material and various Gospel books and other stationary. We also are planning to provide a shelter for them. So that this programmed may take in large scale and also planning to expand our mission beyond our present remote villages. We have also delegate a responsibility to the youth who are well trained with us, to the remote villages still nobody knows about Jesus and spreading this gospel even remote corers of the tribal villages in West Godavari. In order to achieve this programmed, we are hiring a rented vehicle, with rented sound systems, electrical, visual media equipment for every week. Because of limited resources, we could not make up this programmed so successful. Kindly pray for us to procure vehicle and own electrical, visual media equipment so that we can extend our support to Gospel with these bright and young & dynamic youth achieve wonderful and fruitful result.
Distribution of Books, Slates, Plates & Glasses to the Children of Poor in Remote Tribal Area
We have distributed food items, mats, buckets and other essential commodities for the victims of the fire accident
We are distributing the ration and essential commodities like rice, mats, buckets etc to the victims of Fire accident
We are also conducting medical camp to the poor remote tribal women
Medical Camp: Doctor giving instruction to the poor patients
Distributing Cloths to the Old age Widows in the remote village by Rev. Dr.B.J.EMMANUEL RAJU, Gospel & social work missionary
At last I wish to convey that while conducting such a wonder programs, we are facing financial crisis, and social crisis etc. Despite of all these hurdles we have determined to putforth our service. So far I am conducting these programmes with the mobilization of local
Funds through my colleagues. I am a middle class person and with the help of such likeminded employee’s participation we are going in such a progressive gospel program me. We don’t have any external funds apart from my salary and some small contributions from my employees. So I am requesting all of you that any type of help such as medicines, books, visual media equipment, vehicle provision, etc may definitely helpful in Gospel and I beg you that kindly became an associate in my service by extending your support and your prayers.
For all these programmers’ are conducting under my guidance while facing so many difficulties and also I am engaging on this task round the clock for the Lord Jesus and the reason for such an effort is by the holy bible verse “I PRESS TOWARD THE MARK FOR THE PRIZE OF THE HIGHCALLING OF GOD IN CHRIST JESUS” Phil: 3:14.”
PLEASE PRAY AND HELP FOR THE POOR PASTOR, ORPHANS CHILDERNS, FOR CONSTRUCTIONS OF CHURCHS IN AND BIBLE COLLEGE IN MY VILLAGE SORROUNDING AREAS .OUR YOUTH MEMBERS ARE VERY INTRESTED TOWARDS JESUS.IAM AND MY PASTORS TOGETHER GATHERED AND DESCOUSED ABOUT THE MATTER BIBLE COLLEGE IN OUR VILLAGE .TO MAKE THE YOUTH , IN FUTHER PASTOR AND TO DO JESUS WORKS IN THEIR DAILY LIFE AND TO PREACH THE BIBLE WORDS TO THEPEOPLES IN DIFFERET PLACESES .AND WE ALSO DIDN’T HAVE CHURCHS IN MY VILLAGE SORROUNDING AREAS .WE ARE COLLECTING SOME FUNDS .THAT FUNDS ARE TOTALLY SPENDING FOR ORPHANS CHILDERNS ,AND FOR THEIR MAINTAINS..THE PEOPLE ARE INTRESTED IN CONSTRUCTING THE A NEW CHURCHS. WE TRYING VERY HARD FOR CONSTRUCTION OF BIBLE COLEGE FOR YOUTH AND CHURCHS FOR POOR PEOPLE IN SURROUNDING AREAS. THE FUNDS COMING FROM THE PEOPLE ARE NOT SUFFICIENT FOR CONSTRUCTING THE CHRUCHS AND BIBLE COLLEGE FOR YOUTH.PLEASE PRAY AND HELP IN TELLING THIS MATTER TO YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE YOUR REAIATIVES TO HELP US IN ANY WAY.ABOVE MENTIONED OUR PROBLEMS ARE IN VERY NEED TO US.WE ALSO NEED A VAN OR CAR TO CANVERS AND IN MANY WAYS FOR CHRUCHS PURPOSE .ONCE AGAIN PLEASE PRAY PRAY AND HELP FOR MY PROBLEMS.
Therefore, it is requested to my entire brother and sisters in the name of Jesus may kindly pray AND HELP for me and my services for the poor and remote village people.
Thanking you
Rev.Dr.B.JOHN EMMANUEL RAJU.
deatr brother you have
deatr brother
you have rightly said what you do and profess. We should havce conviction that what we do is for God and not for our selfish motives.If we follow the true footsteps of christ then as he taught us . we can only pray that God they do not know what they are doing. Please forgive them because they misunderstanf what we are doing.
If chruastianity was so much spread then to day still we have not increased in our population even by 1/2 %. So where is the growth in chriastianity.TO me changiong of hearts are outlook is requitres rather than changing of religion, Let us convert the heart of people and not their religion.
Xtianity Slayer - How can
Xtianity Slayer - How can you even have a name like that? People like you are against people and humanity - what you hate is not Christianity, you hate people. You kill those you dont like. And you take pride in that. Wasn't Gandhiji killed by the RSS?
You talk so much about slavery, African churches, and anhiliation of the American Indians as your rebuttal to my post as if you just graduated from Harvard with a degree on ancient civilisation. First of all, get your geography right - Ecuador is not in North America. I am not surprised that most of the people who comment on this website dont have their facts right - they are reacting emotionally like you based on half baked knowledge - people like you can't make out the difference between a Catholic and a Baptist. I doubt if you know what your own scriptures tell you about slaying others.
Comming back to your allegations against Christianity. Many of the people who perpertrated henious acts like slavery, or destroyed American Indian culture may have carried a Christian name but even Christ wouldn't have them at his door step. You need to understand that the core of the Christian faith is love, compassion - none of us who are true Christians ... would support anything of the kinds you mention. You dont test Christianity based on the abuse of its name. Let me also state for the record that Abraham Lincoln who waged wars against slavery and eventually put an end to it was a Devout christian. Martin Luther King Junior who fought for Black American rights was a devout christian too. Please get your facts right and do some reading for God's sake.
And you have skillfully avoided my points on Hollywood, and materialism because you support that. You want American money. You want American university degrees too. You would trade your children for the Holywood filth in the name of entertainment. You are the bigot. Your hate for christians shows clearly that you dont even want to reason it out.
And you tell me there is no cateism in India? Are you blind? Try giving that sermon in rural India. High Caste Hindus wont even get medical treatment from a low caste doctor. You must be kidding to tell the world that casteism doesnt exist in India. Your own people on this website have said that casteism is the root cause for people turning to other religions. On this website elsewhere - there was someone praising his Brahminism and calling low castes people dogs. You are blind my friend. May be you chose to be blind. May be it is flavour of the month for people like you to venge your anger agaisnt Chistians. Christians are easy targets arent they? When Graham Staines and his children were burnt alive by people like you - his widow was the first one to offer forgiveness to the killers. She called for droping the case. Christians will not react like for like. We wont take up arms even when we are hurt. Try doing that to the Muslim - he will not only chop you but also ensure that for generations you will be reminded of the consequences.
I wouldnt say that for all Hindus - I respect many of them for their character, integrity and honesty. Some of my best friends are Hindus. Not people like you who have no respect for human beings. You will kill your neighbour if it got you to win your argument. Shame on you.
Lastly, let me say this. After you and I die -we both will stand in front of a holy and righteous God. We wont have to give an account of what others have done. Or what Ghandiji did or didnt do, or Abraham Lincoln or others did or didnt do. We both will have to give an account of our lives. I am very concerned about the responses I will give. I hope you will have your answers too. Murderers, killers, haters of good, and people does not have a place there. And every knee will bow before Christ...I know for sure that i will be doing that willingly. I dont know about you and the many people reading this. I am praying that God will give all of us wisdom to deal with trying times like this. That we will not act foolishly but rather with a contrite and broken heart pray for the unity of India - a nation we all share. I am proud to be an Indian first, Christian next.
Prajyot Sinha - You are a
Prajyot Sinha - You are a true intellectual. Most hindus react emotiaonally to the xtian attack on their culture. Please continue to remind Hindus of their culture and how to hande these cunning abrahmics
Yes Sir I am very much
Yes Sir I am very much satisfied by your remark on this topic of Christians converting Hindus and all that stupid Christian propaganda. What I want to bring to notice to this discussion is regarding the burning and destruction churches in Karnatika and Orisa.Is is right?? Is the violence only path we Hindus have to take??How can we be differentiated from those fanatics of Islam then??What we are loosing in this battle is the sympathy of a normal middle class Indian or rather a just normal India. After sometime people will start asking how are you different for 'Jihadis' who believe in only vilonce. People might say that we Hindus have been under attack for muslim invaders and then by christians (in form of Britishers) we have kept quiet and now we will do vilonce.No!! what instead we have to do is to achieve our goals without damaging the image of peaceful Hindus. What we can do is do what the Christians are doing. Convert them back to hinduism by luring them offering them better schools better health care so that they are attracted towards us not them. By doing this we give the message in public that we are doing a great job to humanity and by doing this alone we kill christian dream of converting all of us that authoritative religion. History has been example that Hinduhism has survived only because it has been like a elastic absorb every thing and constantly evolving.By violence we only defame our religion even if we believe we are fighting for a good cause..
I would like to hear for all of u people what to think of this idea?
"[Slavery] was established
"[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation...it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts." Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America
"Every hope of the existence of church and state, and of civilization itself, hangs upon our arduous effort to defeat the doctrine of Negro suffrage." Robert Dabney, a prominent 19th century Southern Presbyterian pastor
And some members of fringe Christian groups like the Christian Reconstructionists, the Christian Identity movement, and the Ku Klux Klan (an organization dedicated to the "empowerment of the white race"), still argue that slavery is justified by Christian doctrine today.
Wake up black Indians... Buddhism is the only true religion
anonymous says "Bible
anonymous says "Bible teaches to treat humans with dignity and self-respect, even if it's a begger,lepper,murderer anyone for that matter..."
Wrong bible teches kill infidels
www.evilbible.com/
you think you are smart by
you think you are smart by posting the www.evilbible.com website...
Look at the picture on this page on the top right hand corner under " Amarnath Land Row" - it shows a hand that just killed. What are your trying to prove?
Who gives you the right to take lives in the first place when you have nothing to do with giving life?
Life is sacred. Get that straight.
Indian— When I see bigots
Indian— When I see bigots like you I feel it is justified to destroy Christianity
You say "Many people like Jim Elliot were speared to death for bringing civilisation to people in
jungles like Ecuador who ate each other for supper. "
All we hear about American Indian canabilism is from Christian sources, there is no independent verification of it. One of the vile things christians do is to demonize all other cultures. If american Indian s were Canabals, they could not have developed such a sophisticated civilization.
If it were not for Xtians, millions of American Indians would have survived. When the Christians reached America, good hearted American Indians gave them refuge and even food. But very soon the Christianity unleashed genocide on them. Church specially sent plague infested blankets to exterminate these gentle people.
You say "Let's face it. Christ's teaching is very appealing to the downtrodden."
Really… Tell this to blacks in Africa and they will laugh at you.. Was it not Christian church that justified slavery. Bible not just justifies slavery but suggests barbaric punishment to slaves who run away. Even today Blacks and Whites have a separate church in America. India outlawed castism in 1947 and American Christians outlawed Segregation( Equalant to castism) in 1965. Almost 20 years after India. And Christian South Africa outlawed segregation in 1995, that is 50 years after India. No wonder Blacks in America and South Africa are turning to Islam as a revenge for injustice and oppression of them by Christianity.
You lie and say "In India, Christianity is vastly appealing because of the Caste system. I have seen people who work as servants in Christian homes and the landlord eat of the same table but never see that in a Hindu's home."
Are you saying there is no castism in Indian Christians. Thousands of Christians recently threatened to become hindu becauseof oppression from Hish cast Christians
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_/ai_54757028
Castism was and is a problem still to some extent in Hindus and Christians are exploiting it just like Muslims are exploiting the segregation of blacks in Africa and South Africa and most blacks are converting to Islam to vent their anger against Christianity.
But before 1965 if a blackie like you went to America, you would not be allowed to enter most of the restaurants which were meant for White Christians only. Forget about that you would not be allowed to even use the toilet which a white man uses. Now you have become a fool and a slave of the same white man who abused blackies like you in America
You say "Let me also ask you this - how many educated Hindu teachers and doctors are willing to take up a
posting in rural indian villages for the betterment of the poor."
Ever heard of Seva Bharti. They help poor rural Indians without converting them. Most of the Xtians who do social work do not do it selflessly because they are paid to convert people.
You say "How many Mother teresas has Hinduism produced? - how many of your priests will wash the sores of a leper - think about it?"
Have you ever heard of Auribindo, Mahatma Phule, Vivekanad, Ramakrishna mission etc.. I am sure you have not you Christian bigot, because you don’t want to know. You are just programmed to abuse and hate Hindus. I think BD is tright in beating the shit out of ass holes like you
. In Germany, under the Nazi regime it was Christian Germans who have sheltered Jews
What a balony. Christian Germans did not shelter any one. Christians Germans killed jews and your Church did not even utter a word. Shame on Christianity and bigots like you should hanged for justifying this Christian crime.
Tell me why your Church and mother teresa did not save a million Christian Ethopeans who were dying of hunger and starvation due to famine. Because there is no benefit in saving a community which is already Christian. Instead they were in India doing propaganda. Once most of the Indians convert, they wil also leave you to your fate…
If only we could wipe out
If only we could wipe out the caste system why should there be a need for conversions...Bible teaches to treat humans with dignity and self-respect, even if it's a begger,lepper,murderer anyone for that matter...No wonder the down-trodden flock to christianity as it increases the self image...A Lesson to learn for Sangh Parivar...Can any Indian leader share his dining table with a lepper and a begger...Mother Teresa can...!!
I am amazed at the unanimity
I am amazed at the unanimity with which many of you who have written against Christian institutions
and Christian giving - that christians are out to pay money, build schools, sent out doctors to rural
areas to convert Hindus. For the last 2000 + years, Christians have gone to the far and wide corners
of the world preaching Christ that have resulted in the transformations of people. True Christians condemn acts of violence and forceful conversion wherever they take place. Many people like Jim Elliot were speared to death for bringing civilisation to people in
jungles like Ecuador who ate each other for supper.
Let's face it. Christ's teaching is very appealing to the downtrodden. It is part of the Christian's ethos to care for the poor, the fatherless and the widow.
Christians believe in sharing their faith with
others for the very reason that they are commanded by Christ to share his teaching far and wide (Read Matthew's Gospel 28). And even for a bigger reason that our world and future is not in this world but in the world to come.
And we do not share our faith with people for any material, national or religious gains in this world. That's why we are grossly misunderstood.
In India, Christianity is vastly appealing because of the Caste system. I have seen people who work as
servants in Christian homes and the landlord eat of the same table but never see that in a Hindu's home. Our Hindu neighbours have different vessels to serve us when we visit them. I have seen Christians treating poorer people with respect and dignity because we value human life as God
given. What is wrong with that? The poor get attracted to Christ's teaching because they see in Christ
a genuine heart seeking out their interests. There are many high caste hindus in our country who do
not want to see the lower castes (by Hindu definition) rising up in life - isn't that the back drop of the Orrisa violence where Dalits are suddenly finding education and jobs. High caste Hindus want to
keep the lower castes enslaved and deprived of basic human rights - consider the landowners in
Bihar, Haryana and large part of northern India. And sure enough it irks them when 'low' caste Indians begin to get educated and start getting jobs that make them on par with the high caste indians - that to me is the root problem. Isnt that the reason why Mayawati is a phenomenon in these states?
Let me also ask you this - how many educated Hindu teachers and doctors are willing to take up a
posting in rural indian villages for the betterment of the poor. Most successful Indian Hindus I know are
in the West in the quest of the American dollar and an American education - why arent they involved
in the education of India's poor? Forget middle class indians, even government teachers are unwilling
to teach in some of the conditions in which missionary teachers and doctors work under. The only
reason Christian missionaries take up such impoverished conditions is becuase of their love for the people and the love of Christ. I am yet to see that kind of service from Hindu organisations -
although I must say that I have quite a number of Hindu friends who are exemplary in character and of
sound moral values and of a giving nature.
How many Mother teresas has Hinduism produced? - how many of your priests will wash the sores of a
leper - think about it? christians have done service through the years world wide. Take for example
the Red Cross, the Flying doctors and all these organisations originated from men who were
commited Christians with a cause of helping the needy and the poor where governments and even
ideologies havent helped. In Germany, under the Nazi regime it was Christian Germans who have
sheltered Jews risking even their lives to protect the sanctity of life. Let me also add that it was the
committed Christians in the British government who worked in the background to give India its
independance - it was never the unbelieving British government officials who were at the forefront
to get us our freedom.
So please take a moment to understand and analyze each data point before you make a blanket statement. There are bad apples every where ...in every faith system, in every political party and
every ethnic, and language group. (I have noticed that people interchangeably say that church is
driven by Vatican - more than half of the churches in India do not even recognise the Pope as their
head let alone Vatican.) Those people do not represent the entirety. There may be a few unscrupulous
Christians who may have offered money to add to the numbers to the Church - that is useless as far as
the Christian cause is concerned because God looks at the heart. Even in the times of Christ there
were people willing to follow Christ because of the miracles he performed. There are far too many
TV evangelists who have shamed the name of Christians worldwide. Those bad apples are there in
every walk of life.
Genuine Christians, desciples of Christ love India. We are Indians by culture, by trandition and by nature - we will never acede aligiance to another nation. Expression of our faith is our fundamental human right as laid out in our constitution. We cease to become Christian if we stop sharing our faith with our friends and other people - to us it is like a student who have access to a
repository of university questions and answers not sharing that resource with his friends. We have
tasted the love of Christ and we want our countrymen to taste it as well. People have their right to
accept or reject our faith because no one can convert others. Pause for a second to see how many
times have you been converted from believing one thing or the other - it is a choice one makes.
If we say people should not be allowed to see other viewpoints and belief systems - we should also
stop MTV, TV soaps and TV shows like Friends, Will and Grace, Desparate Housewives and Sex in the
City also - because they are also teaching our young people a culture and belief system that is not part
of the Indian tradition. I know some of you will also have the audacity to stand up and say that is
Christian conspiracy too... but I am yet to see or hear RSS, VHP or Bajrang Dal say that the crap
dished out from Hollywood is detrimental to our society. We should also stop importing cars and go
back to our old Fiats and Ambassadors - because we are converting our masses into becoming capitalistic ego maniacs and lustful Western boot lickers. We live in a world that gives people
choice... why do we allow freedom when it comes to materialistic values but do not use the same
yard sticks when it comes to religious choices. Religion is one of those nasty things you dont choose
much like race and color and gender. I believe our faith should also be a matter of Choice. and let me
tell you it is only Christianity that will teach you that being born to Christian parents do not make you a Christian.
It has to be a conscious choice people make to follow Christ. And people will choose a better alternative when they have a choice - there is no point terroising them against it. That is
regressing into the stone age.
If so, it is appalling to read statements that Christians are anti-national, anti Indian and work for the interest of the Vatican. This not only exposes the lack of understanding of what Christianity is in the
first place but also exposes the underlying conscious intent of some to tarnish and abolish christianity
from India. I fear a Yogoslavia or Rwanda in the making where ethnic cleansing was used to eliminate people that the majority didnt simply like for their color, race, beliefs and other differences. that is not the India I was born in. That is not the Hinduism I have grown up with. This is a real shame on every Indian and more so on the Hindu.
Anil- I hope you are only
Anil- I hope you are only reporting what Muslims have done and you personally dont condone to what they did. If you do, you should realize that Hindu schools also are at same risk.
I am aware of the facts as I
I am aware of the facts as I know that muslims are involved in forced conversions of hindus by offering money, jobs or by threats from so called jehadis. moreover those converts within no time become anti-hindu. I m opposed to conversions.
But to my understanding or what I have seen in my life that most of the time illiterate, ignorant and poor are the targets. They only know what they are told (they have empty brains) as a child learns the language in which his parents talk to him.
So, if we want conversions to be stopped we have to educate the masses about our rich religion and culture before some one else educates them in his way.
There is no christian
There is no christian population in my village but yes a church was there for long. 2-3 christians from outside were maintaining the church. they lured the so called low caste hindu people with money and a rich life and asked them to convert to christainity. the poor people started attending prayers every sunday in the church. after some time when they didn't get any financial help they stopped visiting church. Missionaries then opened a english medium school in the village which was the first english medium school there. most of the studenst were from muslim families and they wanted urdu and arabic to be taught in the school.moreover they were opposed to the morning assembly prayers of the school which was inclined towards christainity. when the school administration refused to do so. the muslim population not only forced the school to close but also completely destroyed the church. now the whole village believes that its good that they (christians) are no longer in their village.
My personal views: I have many friends across communities and i have no problem with their faith as long as they consider themselves as true Indians and give due respect to the centuries old great religion of India.
Douglas Brandow frankly
Douglas Brandow
frankly speaking christian proselytization is from being of nuisance value is turning to be a threat to the indian state & it's high time that we stop it, indegenious or foreign, let's face it,the holier than thou attitude & fanatic beleifs & working toward such goals is absolutely a psychatric disorder, when did the hindus ever cast aspersion on Jesus the Christ not being God, rather i shall go a step further to say that it's the hindu mind that truely understands the Divinity of the Christ,& rather than the VHP or it's ilks trying to stop this pervert conversion racket,i ask the intelligent christian community to put a self ban on it, & like the stupid islamic rhetoric yelling'islam khatre mein' , stop shrieking christian khatre mein,or else one day the wolf will surely come.
good joke on christians.but
good joke on christians.but sorry I could not laugh. it din make me laugh.
U seem 2 be misunderstanding
U seem 2 be misunderstanding the point@ritesh.There will be no hindus left after muslims nd christians join in destroying hinduism THEN they will fight.With the unnecessary agitation of christians by vhp nd bajrang dal,who do u think will be the losers??Hindus!Why do they not target everyones common enemy 2 world peace-the terrorists/islam??So ruler of wat world do u mean??N even if any hindus are left,with the state of the environment,wat do u think will live??// If u go 2 bajrangdal.com their anti-islam/islamveg.Com links go 2 how 2 convert 2 islam as wel as islam sponsored ads!I am shocked.Go ahead pls try their links.I am trying 2 contact them as 2 this via email.
Christians and muslims do
Christians and muslims do not give with pure heart but intention is tat with giving ppl must eventualy get converted.As 2 y africa is not targeted anymore is becos islam is taking over africans.They are given money n other rewards 4 fasting 4 ramadaan!Muslim africans are killing african christians if they do not convert.Its were they are geting terrorist training n recruits.Every 5 miles is a masjid!Bylaws are not 4 muslims becos bribery gets job done.Look at nigeria,it was solely christian,then half muslim,half christian,now becoming majority muslim due 2 pakistanis involvement n marriage 2 african women,converting them,having children with them,after residency they openly conduct giving gifts 4 those converted!Christians shoud unite with hindus 2 destroy islam.Give respect 2 each other.Im hindu,bt if there was only choice betwen christian n islam i rather be christian any day!A world war is hapening already,most hv not woken up 2 this,a war of religions.
its good let both of them
its good let both of them fight and we will be the rular of the world
The article is correct. The
The article is correct.
The recent developments in Orissa and Karnataka are natural response of the people.
Africa is full of millions
Africa is full of millions of poor starving people who really need help.
My request to Christian missionaries is to leave us alone and go to Africa. The cost of conversion of an African is much lesser than that of an Indian.
Please eave us alone or else because of your bigotry the normal peacel loving Christian in India is going to Suffer.
It began with the arrival of
It began with the arrival of Christian missionaries in the area who found the remote region very conducive to conduct prosetylization amongst the poor tribals. The conversions continued unhindered until the arrival of Swami Laxmanananda who put strenuous efforts to stop conversions and help reconversion to Hinduism as well. If not for his effort Kandhamal would have been another Nagaland in the making where the separatist movement has wrecked havoc in the state. The aggressive Christian proselytization in Orissa today pitched previously peaceful tribals into warring camps of Christians and non-Christian. This has has vitiated the peace that has existed with various communities for millenia. Why Orissa Orissa has been specially targeted because of a huge tribal population. This allows the missionaries to work from the scrutiny of the media and carry our their nefarious activities. In Kandhamal district, for instance, the Christian population increased from 6% 1971 TO 27% in 2001
It's important to
It's important to distinguish between foreign humanitarian efforts and indigenous. For example, you have the humanitarian efforts of Indian Christian groups who pre-date the advent of European missionary work, groups such as the Malankara Orthodox Church. These are groups that don't in any way depend upon foreign monies or support and they have been involved in humanitarian effort in India for centuries. They also live side-by-side with their Indian brothers and sisters of all faiths, peacefully.
Mr Dogra is right!So called
Mr Dogra is right!So called selfless missionery work is a myth perpetrated by missioneries themselves.They should tell us which tribal areas or Dalit bastis they have served without converting all or many of those whom they served.We should also not be misled by their institutions of higher learning set up in metros and large cities.These are mere facades and as pointed out by Mr Dogra, they are run on the fees provided by rich Hindu parents.But then Hindu society is waking up! wherever we go, we find schools, colleges and hospitals set up by Hindu Trusts and organisations like Seva Bharati.It is the duty of every Hindu parent that they send their children to such Hindu schools.Great leaders of people and professionals are emerging out of these schools and colleges.Why go and beg for admissions in those missionery schools?